PIANJ CEO/Advantage Conference—"Maximizing your partnership: The collaborative sales process" | ||||||||||||||||
For the first time, the conference was open to all PIANJ members—this opportunity was just too good to miss! But, in case you DID miss it—here are some highlights. Feel free to share these ideas with your staff, your business partners—anyone you work with to boost your sales. |
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Harness
the talent that’s under your nose “Significant numbers of young people are coming into independent agencies,” says Peter van Aartrijk. “Especially from the captive agency side.” “Young producers bring discipline to the business,” Skip Daigle says. “For example, they track sources of new business—and number one is referrals.” “Younger people, when they enter an agency, they don’t see the technology they’re used to,” Steve Anderson says. “That’s true of your customers and prospects, your staff and job candidates. It hurts you.” |
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Helping agents grow: Process never trumps sales | ||||||||||||||||
—Lloyd “Skip”
Daigle, vice president for enterprise development, Travelers |
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Skip’s proposition is simple—All processes at agencies and companies (and ESPECIALLY at their interfaces) should promote, not impede sales. When you identify ANY impediment—root it out and convert it to facilitate making the sale. Skip focused on several friction points that should be reinvented as opportunities—especially the time-honored visit from the company field rep. Instead of squandering this valuable face-time on presenting data (e-mail it ahead) or sharing doughnuts, Skip wants both parties to focus on growth. This presumes the company DOES still field a team of people to help their agents—and that those individuals are trained to do what they should be doing: helping agents grow. [Later Peter and New Jersey agent Mike Bergstein showed off a new tool that lets agency owners pro-actively set the agenda for each field rep visit—see it here (PDF).] Skip charged that some independent agents and companies may be “harvesters” not “growers.” Agency owners can dedicate profits to themselves and their families—or they can reinvest to support more growth, more profits in the future. Companies may look to “harvest” each other’s books. This doesn’t help agents grab market share and grow the agency marketing channel overall. Skip also scotched the idea that companies can grow only by slashing rates—but rates do need to be competitive. Agents and companies alike aim for PROFITABLE growth. Skip asked which is better, a small agency that’s growing or a big agency that’s stagnating or losing customers? Right now, 50-70 percent of agencies have 10 or fewer total agency staff. “Is bigger better?” Companies ignore small agencies at their peril. Total customer count, not premium, is the honest way to evaluate your success, he said. |
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Disturbing data | ||||||||||||||||
Skip said companies should help agencies diagnose barriers to growth (Are CSRs overworked? Are underwriters foiling your efforts?) Once field reps. gain the confidence of the agency owner, they can work directly with agency staff to help execute growth plans and improve sales skills, he said. “Companies need to match their best staff with agents who want to grow,” Skip concluded. |
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Nothing happens till somebody sells something | ||||||||||||||||
—Paul Monacelli, CIC,
CPIA, chief executive officer, ADP/Statewide Insurance Agency |
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Paul picked up where Skip left
off, by discussing functional vs. dysfunctional interactions with company
field reps. He talked about the annual “poker game” where
each side tries to guess the “right” growth number for the
agency’s commitment in the upcoming year. (Skip said frankly that such conversations generate “lies” told by both sides—and what’s worse, each side KNOWS the other is lying. “Change the conversation!”) Paul said in his agency the planning process starts in July, so by November he pretty well knows what his projections with each company will be. But what is really helpful, he said— “Is when a company asks, 'What do I need to do to help you grow?'” He recounted the story of one individual from a company who worked on this basis until Paul and the company had a detailed plan. The company even took his suggestion for a new product—and ran with it. “Success depends on having a written plan,” said Paul, an ex-military man who has led complex, sensitive missions on this basis. “It’s all about implementation.” “Do YOU have a written plan?” Paul challenged. “Do you look at it at least once a week? "If not, you don’t know what is going on in your agency.” Paul said agents aren’t always good at evaluating what they are doing. “We hate our companies’ alternative distribution channels,” he said. “But why do they have them? Because agents are not giving them the growth they need. Who runs companies? Wall Street analysts do—and THEY focus on growth. Companies are not the bad guys here. But, we need to re-evaluate everything we’re doing with this in mind.” |
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Helping agents grow: Generational selling | ||||||||||||||||
—Steve Anderson, president,
The Anderson Network Inc. |
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Steve recounted his 25 years’
experience, first with a company and then in various agencies. He knows
what it’s like to build a book from scratch and how to automate
an agency. Now, his regular columns in Rough Notes and his subscription-only
“The Automated Agency Report” focus on how to use technology
in marketing.
“What are your customers like?” Steve asked. He cited common online transactions, for example comparing air fares, where customers’ expectations are shaped. “They want cheap prices,” Steve said. “They want access through the Internet.” If you meet their expectations, you can fulfill the 80/20 rule—you’ll get a lot more of each customer’s business by fulfilling their needs, Steve said. Industries such as banks provide online services “that actually get the customer doing a lot of the work,” Steve pointed out. But, customers like the convenience and control. “Why do you think they don’t want to do the same with you?” Steve asked. “Agents are great salespeople, but they’re not good at marketing.” Steve defines marketing as the activities geared to identifying prospects and getting the opportunity to close a sale with them. Successful marketing requires understanding the preferences of each generation, he said. Regarding technology, no generation is a total monolith. A minority of seniors use online technology, and a fraction even of the youngest buyers don’t. But increasingly, generational habits of purchasing and communicating are different from those of the typical agency owner demographic. Here’s a snapshot:
For seniors, the key is—make it easy. They have to work more at technology, even if they use it frequently. For younger customers, technology is a natural extension of themselves, a means of communicating they use constantly. Steve encouraged attendees to familiarize themselves with some sites that Gen X and Gen Y use to communicate and get information. These include YouTube, where people can post and view video clips, photos and comments; and social networking sites like MySpace and Facebook, where people stay in constant touch with groups of friends and coworkers. “You can’t assume that you think like your prospect does,” especially if that prospect is from a different generation, Steve points out. And the implications of that difference are enormous for successful marketing. While baby boomers “live to work,” younger people “work to live,” Steve said. “Text messaging and instant messaging—that’s how younger people connect,” he said. “How are you going to handle IM-ing in YOUR office?” At this point the audience and panel broke into a lively exchange prompted by the gap between those who felt uneasy about staff messaging during work hours, and those who have managed to “let go” of this anxiety. “We let producers validate themselves through performance. They work when and where they want,” Paul said. “Agency owners feel like they’re paying for time,” Steve empathized. “So naturally they feel uncomfortable if they can’t tell whether an activity is work-related.” Then he related a new management strategy by Best Buy. In this move, Best Buy did away with work hours in favor of a “results-only work environment.” “You’ll have to find out what contact means” to younger people, Steve said. “It doesn’t mean face-to-face anymore.” This goes for both customers and business partners. He pointed out “collaboration sites” like WebEx and suggested in-office video to conduct meetings with people off-site. Steve said that adapting to the preferences of younger customers means, “Don’t get rid of what you are doing now—add to it.” The key is to deliver VALUE, he said. Agencies should be collecting people’s e-mail addresses and using them to provide service. |
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“Remember, expectations are being shaped by other industries. I can order flowers for my wife and get a message when they are delivered,” Steve said. “Your client should always come to your Web site, NOT the company’s,” Steve said. “But some companies aren’t letting that happen. Maybe they’re reluctant to let the agency site ‘authenticate’ their customer. That’s got to change.” [Take a look at ProgressiveDirect’s Manage Your Policy page if you haven’t already.—ed.] Speaking of agency Web sites, most leave a lot to be desired. “They’re just brochures—not marketing tools.” But a few agencies have figured out how to provide rich content on their Web sites. One strategy is creating “micro-sites”—a sub-unit of your main site which delivers value geared to a specific niche customer. “A Web site overcomes geography and expands your marketing area,” Steve said. “People search online now. But a challenge for independent agents is ‘search engine maximization.’ Have you searched your town plus ‘insurance’? Who comes up at the very top? The big direct sellers, that’s who.” Steve suggested using video rather than print for training staff in agency procedures. “Remember, younger people tend to be more visual learners.” |
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Helping Agents Grow: Cooperative “Advertising” | ||||||||||||||||
—Peter van Aartrijk,
Jr., CIC, managing director, The van Aartrijk Group LLC |
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“Hire younger people and a lot of this will take care of itself,” reassured Peter as Steve yielded the floor. “Let the young folks improve your Web site. Some agents are beginning to use video to explain coverages in a fun way. Everyone has video cameras right now. Let the young people do it!” Then he tackled another traditional agency/company venture—“co-op advertising.” “It’s a farce,” Peter said. “It’s another subject where a lot of lies are told.” Peter said a recent survey found only 43 percent of agents have a marketing plan, 39 percent have none, and (“here’s what’s really scary”) 18 percent are not sure. About 50 percent of co-op ad dollars never get spent. “You should put this money into developing and optimizing search around your Web site,” Peter said. “Forget the print Yellow Pages. No one looks at them any more.” “Keep updating your agency Web site—continuously is best,” Peter said. “Not just its look, but how well it comes up when people search.”
Peter said companies need to be more flexible about how their marketing money is spent. But, agencies need to show a plan. “Usually, no one at the agency is in charge. There’s no budget, no plan, no tracking.” “Be sure to have someone in charge of your plan. Even if you don’t have anyone internally to do this, you as the owner can take charge and be the leader,” Peter encouraged. Peter agreed with Steve about aiming for “a bigger piece of your customer” and about robust client contact as the key. “Don’t spend money on ads until you build a plan for increasing your contact with existing customers. Even your personal lines clients need a risk manager. He advised agents to take a good look at all their advertising and marketing materials, and even their physical office—“it’s all part of your brand. Does it look like it goes together? Does it look like you want?” If not, hire a professional. “The best brands are about emotion—and your people are a great strength. Showcase them,” Peter advises. But an ad should be about “you”—not you, the agent, but you, the customer. He suggested a marketing budget of 1-3 percent
of commission revenues; up to 5 percent for special circumstances. |
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Questions and answers | ||||||||||||||||
How much is reasonable to pay for advertising?
What do you think of agency newsletters?
Do you think companies should do national advertising? How can we tell if a company is serious?
Why can’t we have less turnover in underwriters, more chance to build relationships?
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Speaker profiles | ||||||||||||||||
Paul Monacelli,
CIC, CPIA, chief executive officer, ADP/Statewide Insurance Agency Paul is chief executive officer of ADP/Statewide Insurance Agencies, Cedar Knolls. He is a past president of PIANJ, and was PIA National’s 2003 Professional Agent of the Year. He serves on several carriers’ agency advisory councils and is currently the PIANJ Auto Insurance Task Force chairman. Paul received his B.S. from Seton Hall University. A Vietnam veteran, he is a retired colonel in the U.S. Army Reserves. In 1994, he served in Rwanda as chief of Military Operations for the humanitarian aid mission Operation Support Hope. Paul also served as mayor of the city of Orange. He holds the Certified Professional Insurance Agent designation, conferred by the American Insurance Marketing and Sales Society for completion of rigorous training in insurance sales. |
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Lloyd “Skip”
Daigle, vice president for enterprise development, Travelers Skip’s role at Travelers is to focus all his efforts on helping agents grow long-term, profitably. He holds an MBA in Marketing from the University of Connecticut. His prior Travelers background over three decades includes management positions in Data Processing and Management Consulting. Skip, who is recognized nationally as a highly motivational speaker, also writes agency-oriented articles and authored the agency management primer “Breaking the Code.” He served as chairman of the Professional Insurance Agents-Company Council of Executive Officers—the dominant organization pairing both company and agency executives. |
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Steve Anderson,
president, The Anderson Network Inc. Licensed as an independent agent for 25 years, Steve is a prolific writer and speaker. His column, Agency Marketing Technology, appears monthly in Rough Notes magazine. He edits "The Automated Agency Report," a monthly newsletter dedicated to providing independent agents with the insurance technology information they need to more effectively manage and grow their agencies. Holding a B.A. in business administration and economics from Taylor University and a Master’s Degree in Insurance Law from Antioch School of Law, Steve is a member of the national faculty for the Society of Certified Insurance Counselors. |
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Peter van Aartrijk,
Jr., CIC, managing director, The van Aartrijk Group LLC Peter has 20 years’ experience in branding and brand management, including advertising, consumer research and education, marketing and Web development. He graduated from Rutgers University with B.A. degrees in English and Journalism. A frequent spokesperson for the insurance industry, he began his career as a newspaper reporter and held editorial positions at the A.M. Best Co. and National Underwriter Co. In 2004, he was named to Insurance Newscast’s list of the 100 Most Powerful People in the Insurance Industry in North America. He is an active participant in the Agents Council for Technology and ACORD-User Groups Information Exchange. His firm provides strategic communication services that build brands for small and large firms and other organizations. |